Excessive oil consumption detroit diesel troubleshooting. Oil filler series 60 detroit diesel engines catalog page 196. Does anyone have a list of all the filters for our series 60 equipped coaches. Lubricating oil diesel the selection of the proper lubricating oil is important for achieving the long and troublefree service detroit diesel series 60 engines are designed to provide. I was operating my new holland ls 170 and noticed oil was coming out of the exhaust. Within about 1,200 miles, bob tailing the new turbo.
I should have a roughly 22,500 mile analysis coming up in the next few weeks. You dont need to change the oil until nearly 30,000 miles, and the engine starts at temperatures down to 40 degrees. I need the numbers for the oil filters, fuel filters, air dryer, radiator filter, transmission filter, and the 20kw kohler filters oil, air, and fuel. The leak is generally between the engine block and the flywheel housing and does not have a gasket it uses a detroit silicone sealant, similar to what is used on differential housings. Rebuilding a detroit series 60 discussion in trucks eighteen wheelers started by jdtrucka66, jan 28, 2011. The oil in the turbo likely is from a dirty air filter. I put to much oil in my 2012 vw turbo but had some removed, the oil. Ive owned it for a couple years and put about 70,000 on it, mostly local miles less than 100 mile trips, i have speedco pm it every 10,000 without fail, oil pressure is 40 hot at rpm and about 25 at idle, bout what its been as long as ive had it. May 08, 2008 that used oil in there ant going to hurt nothen. Problems with series 60 detroit diesel engine it still runs. Trucking jobs in 30 seconds every month 400 people find a job with the help of truckersreport. Within about 1,200 miles, bob tailing the new turbo was leaking more than the old one with half a million. For classic 2cycle engines series 53, 71, 92, 149, visit the mtu detroit diesel 2cycle website.
How to change the fuel filter in a series 60 detroit diesel. Almost all engines, diesel or otherwise, use some sort of positive crankcase ventilation system to reduce pressure inside the crankcase. Series 60 turbocharger oil flow diagram from the oil inlet in the center housing, the oil flows through the drilled oil passages in the housing to. Theres a detroit diesel mechanic, or two, that answers questions on detroit engines on the dieseltalk forum at. They said the machine said they were good but there was physically no fuel coming out of the tip.
Possible misfire on a detroit series 60 i am having some trouble figuring out what is wrong with one of our freightliners, the engine is a d60, on start up it is running rough and loud, the best way to describe it is like a gasoline engine with a misfire. Why is my diesel engine pushing oil out the dipstick. Oil pan series 60 detroit diesel engines catalog page 212. Ive owned it for a couple years and put about 70,000 on it, mostly local miles less than 100 mile trips, i have speedco pm it every 10,000 without fail, oil. Since this is the only series 60 that we have, i dont know if this is a normal characteristic of the motor or not. I have a 98 international with a detroit 60 series its. Freightliner cascadia detroit dd15 leaking oil from the. Series 60 detroit diesel engines catalog page 196, oil filler group. Only oils displaying the american petroleum institute api symbol shown below are recommended. No visable coolant in oil, or oil in coolant, and engine seems to run o. Another customer has been using the flushing oil concentrate for a fair while now, in older 12l macks and series 60 detroit diesels, with great success. The hose would kink and cause excessive crankcase pressure causing excessive oil consumption. Thought turbo was bad at first so we removed it and found oil at manifold. Detroit diesel series 60 tier 3 engine package available.
Steam and water coming from the blo by tube on my series 60 detroit. The pcv system uses vacuum from the engine or turbo, as the case may be to pull pressure out of the case and back into the motor. Its most likely soot coming past the injectors, making it back to the tank. With hundreds of thousands still on the open road, the demand for replacement parts and maintenance items is still there. Lubricants meeting api service category ch4 are intended for use primarily with low 0. Dda tech for 30 years,all 2 cycle, series 60,50 mbe also.
Detroit forum 60 series fuel in oil 2889 on 20080422. Series 60 offshore engine general specifications model engine series 60. Its overhead camshaft increased flow through the head and its drivebywire throttle made it the very first roadgoing truck engine to utilize full electronic controls. Detroit diesel corporation says were ready for epa 07. Causes of diesel engine smoke by color capital reman.
These lubricants are also recommended for use in pre2002 model year ddc engines. Soluble oil additives are not approved for use in the detroit diesel series 60 engine cooling systems. Work helll out of them, then cool down for 5 minutes after a good run. It categorizes areas of possible malfunction, likely cause and recommended action to bring your new, rebuilt or used detroit. A brand new diesel engine running at full load will experience a little bit of blowby upon startup. Check for leaks at oil lines, connections, mating joints, seals, and gaskets. I got a detroit series 60 with oil coming out of the. On dec 27, 2007, a question titled 60 series excessive oil drain from valve cover hose 2693 was added to the detroit forum on diesel talk. Cooling system detroit diesel troubleshooting diagrams. Have 1999 freightliner classic with detroit 60 series 500 horse.
The magazine had this to say, thanks to its ultratorquey detroit diesel series 60 engine, this is the first 38 tonner 83,600 lbs to break the 8. Cause a detroit 60 series to have oil coming out of blowby. Detroit diesel are probably wright, but they charge way to much for labor. Detroit diesel announces series 60 engine fuel economy test. Mike, if youre still having problems, heres a suggestion. Unless someone is dumping it in the tank, or filter during changing. Diesel engine series 50 and 60 for petroleum applications. To meet the demand for a new type of engine that would help usher turbodiesels into this millennium, detroit diesel a subsidiary of chrysler ag introduced the series 60 as its industry trump car. Detroit series 60 with oil in turbo the truckers forum. They found that using the flushing oil concentrate reduced blowby and oil.
A small amount of oil adversely affects heat transfer. These engines had developed a fair bit of blowby and were using more oil. On a detroit 60 series motor, why does it pass oil thru the. Any idling should always be done at 900 rpm to 1k rpm. Detroit started out recommending 15,000 oci, then 17,000 miles, then 20,000 miles and finally 22,500 miles on the 2004 epa engines. On a detroit 60 series motor, why does it pass oil thru.
Jan 09, 2012 my series 60 detroit is consuming 3 gallons of oil for every miles,and smoke is coming out of the breather on the bottonnot only steam. We have a series 60 that is blowing oil out the dipstick. One of the things i did on the series 60 is replace a turbo that had about 500,000 miles on it and was leaking a small amount of oil at the air outlet into the cac. Nitration detroit dieselsdds limit is 50abscm when using delvac 1 we extend this to 60 oil viscosity yes the oil did thicken beyond our upper parameter of 4. Truck has not left shop yet other than 2 test runs of about 2 miles each. The horsepower of the series 60 engine ranges from 425 to 515 hp, depending on the model, with 1,200 rpm. Leaks oil at exhaust manifold to turbo gasket and exhaust pipe to turbo clamp.
The engine lean range or cruise power rating of the series 60 ranges from 425 hp to 515 hp with a maximum rpm of 1,100. The truck is blowing blue an oil in the exhaust manifold. We have a series 60 that is blowing oil out the dipstick tube and through the valve cover gasket. My present coach has 46,000 miles and i changed the oil last month with 9,000 miles since the last change. While i had the detroit distributor on the phone, i asked him how much it costs to overhaul a series 60. When you buy a detroit product, youre buying billions of miles of engineering excellence.
Knock noise in a detroit diesel series 60 it still runs. If you are getting oil out the exhaust, the turbo definitely needs replacing, and that is where most of your oil consumption is. Oil for 2stroke and 4stroke engines 2stroke engines use sae 40 mono grade oil 4stroke engines use 15w40 multigrade oil there are no sulphated ash limits imposed for detroit diesel 4cycle engines. I now have my fourth coach with a series 60 and in the past have gone as much as 15,000 miles on an oil change.
Detroit series 60 with oil in turbo freight relocators. On dec 21, 2010, a question titled series 60 problem after rebuild 4604 was added to the detroit forum on diesel talk. Series 60 problems firehouse forums firefighting discussion. Sep 10, 2014 also make sure your rear main seal is not leaking i have about 22 series 60s and have replaced oil pan gaskets just to find out it was the r m s if it is then the trans has to come out and you should use the correct tool to remove and install the seal, dont worry most a the time its just the pan leaking. Apparently theres nowhere for oil to get into the fuel. Detroit series 60 fuel leakingpresent in oil trucker forum. The restriction will cause the intake air charge to pull oil out of the turbo and into the intake stream. Jan 27, 2012 the oil in the turbo likely is from a dirty air filter. Oil fill tube detroit diesel used series 50 60 235234. Idle period can be 5 minutes or 20 minutes before this occurs.
Couldnt find out where the coolant was going until i pulled the intake and realized it was going into the cylinder and out the exhaust slowly. Oil for 2stroke and 4stroke engines 2stroke engines use sae 40 mono grade oil 4stroke engines use 15w40 multigrade oil there are no sulphated ash limits imposed for detroit. A dual spinon lube oil filter adaptor assembly with a temperaturesensitive thermatic oil control valve is available on series 60, series 60 coolant flow schematic the pressurized engine. Detroit forum oil leaking from turbo 3562 on 20090321. Detroit 60 series 14l head cracked and leaking coolant. Start and run the engine to operating temperature 88 c 190 f. There is no loss of power no smoke and is not missing. Series 60 turbocharger oil lines with one comment oil for lubricating the turbocharger is supplied under pressure through an external oil line extending from the oil filter adaptor to the top of the center housing.
Series 60 oil consumption archive prevost owners group forum. Api cg4 and cf4 oils may be used when ch4 oils are not available. Introduced in 1987, the first detroit series 60 engine was a departure from its predecessors in many ways. The under carriage gets full of oil stains from the valve cover tube after just a few hundred miles. An oil leak on the rear of a series 60 detroit is not an easy or economical repair. May 24, 2017 the oil change will be very similar to almost all detroit series 60 for 1998 or older to 2010 fuel filters may vary location and part number radio station. Dec 08, 2009 i have a 98 international with a detroit 60 series its leaking oil between the exhaust manifold and were the turbo connects to it. I recently noticed a air leak on the front of the fan clutch on my 05 detroit. The centrifuge device was inoperative in this unit due to a maintenance oversight so please refer to the next thread on this under a suffix 8. If the engine exhaust emission is excessively white, shut down the engine. Series 60 turbocharger oil lines with one comment oil for lubricating the turbocharger is supplied under pressure through an external oil line extending from the oil filter adaptor to the. Series 60 tmf turbocharger the tmf turbocharger is used on 1990 and later 12. Detroit diesel series 60 tier 3 engine package not available in california engine power ratings series 60 tier 3 power ratings 425hp1475 lbft 475hp1550 lbft 500hp1550 lbft 550hp1750 lbft manual only 600hp1900 lbft manual only maintenance intervals maintenance item hours years engine oil 250 1 oil filter 250 1 fuel filter 250 1.
Mar 23, 2006 company unveils 2007 series 60 heavyduty diesel engine flagship engine continues legacy as fuel economy, performance leader louisville, kentucky earlier today at the 35th annual midamerica trucking show mats, detroit diesel corporation launched its redeveloped series 60, mbe 4000 and mbe 900 diesel engines to the world, while proclaiming readiness for epa 07. Apparently theres nowhere for oil to get into the fuel on these engines. In this video i show you a few things that could possibly be causing your turbo to spew oil out the turbine and give you ways to fix the problem. This problem with the overflow is typical for ser 60 detroit. To determine if oil leaks are causing excessive oil consumption, perform the following. Some of these trucks had a breather that ran the length of the engine and connected to the hose about on top of the flywheel housingtransmission joint. Had the turbo check everything look good, we are at a complete loss, any help. If no oil leaks are found, shut down the engine and check for a leaking oil cooler core. None of my coaches with series 60 engines has ever used any oil. Rebuilding a detroit series 60 page 2 truckersreport. Jan 15, 2008 possibly a cracked coolant passage near a oil feed port. Have 1999 freightliner classic with detroit 60 series 500. Series 60 oil consumption archive prevost owners group. Jan 23, 2008 depending on the present settings, it can be turned up with out going to the freightliner dealer, but yes you also need to access the engines computer, as this is an electronic controlled engine, the settings in the computer need to be changed and like i said depending on the current settings you may or maynot be able to make the setting higher.
Discussion in trucks eighteen wheelers started by homesick, oct 24, 2009. Excessive white smoke detroit diesel troubleshooting. My brother in law called me and said he had lots of white smoke coming out his exhaust so i told him to come over and i would take a look. I have a 2001 60 series detroit with 430000ml since. As for the ecm codes, i have looked through my ddec manual and there are no codes listed for the way you have described them here. Coolant pushed through overflow reservoir ser 60 14l. The detroit diesel series 60 was the most popular onhighway, heavyduty diesel engine sold in the united states between 1989 and 2008, the year detroit diesel ceased production. Series 60 detroit diesel engines catalog page 212, oil pan groups. We have a 2003 series 60 with an egr valve that smokes intermittently at idle. Take the air line that runs to the fan hub off at the solenoid on the firewall and squirt some air tool oil.
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